I got some old bikes from the original owner, a Peugeot Course a Panasonic Villager III, and an old Trek that his son had debadged, all the bikes are the same as they were new but with rust and grime, even original tires, the only bike that was ridden enough to have any wear on the tires is the trek, I was suprised when I got home that they all had the tires pumped up,

the peugeot is 28lbs with a 59.5cm c-c seat tube and a 60cm c-c TT and 103 tubing and like my motobecane that is very close in size has a long wheelbase of 107cm, it has narrow alloy 27" rims, haven't gotten a chance to ride it yet, but look forward to setting it up and putting on some miles.

the panasonic weighs 35lbs measures 56x56 and since the owner was about my size/a bit taller is set up fine, it has a longish WB of 103cm thanks to a long chainstay, it's got the trick shimano FFS front freewheel system so you can shift w/o pedaling, I rode it a couple miles and it rides pretty well and is comfortable, the wheels are steel and so is the groupset combined with a Hi-Ten frame makes for a heavy bike but hopefully it will prove to be durable as it is now my new beater bike.

the trek as I said is debadged and the kid painted his name with house paint on the TT, the SN0888** means it's an 87 acording to vintage trek and it's a midrange model because of the 501 tubing, the seat post measures 51.5cm c-c and 53cm c-top I don't know how they sized their bikes, the TT is 52cm and the chainstay length is 43cm from the BB center to the rear axle with a 100cm wb if that is any indicator of what model it may be, it's got suntour parts and is pretty good shape, too bad it is too small,