Neither, It's Cardiff, Wales. Excuse the following non bike related rant, but we Welsh get a bit miffed when Americans, and others outside Europe, refer to us as being in England. Wales, along with our bigger neighbour, England is one of four countries in the UK.

Anyway rant over. I've been to Cardiff by the Sea Ca., and it's a nice town - much sunnier and warmer, and with the Pacific to swim in.

It's a beautiful sunny day here, 10:15 a.m., and now the temperature has reached 40 degrees I'm going to go for a bike ride down to the Bay, perhaps have a coffee and a Welsh cake overlooking the harbour, and home again, a pleasant 20 mile circular ride.

Will definitely be following the 50+ threads