thanks for the info on the bikes, I've been trying to find the info on the peugeot but didn't find much, also you can subtract the weight of the bike lock from that one

havent' been able to find out much about the villager III except for a cache of one on craigslist for $150!!! as villager 3 racing bike, the front freewheel is pretty wacky it would be cool if it wasn't so loud and I can feel the ratcheting through the pedals, but it's got a nice feel with all that road hugging weight,

I don't know why I typed 87 for the trek, the correct year was the only thing I found first time I searched, good to know everyones paying attention.

where was the "model size serial range date" info?

I looked at the 83 catalog and found the info for the equipment lists, my bike has a mixture of the 500 and 520, but no triple, and the geometry only listed the 22.5" and both models had the same dimensions, although it doesn't matter much since I don't know what I'll be doing with it, the old treck decals were either really crappy or the kid knew what he was doing and had a heat gun since you can't tell that there was one. the bike is pretty clean except for grime and oxidation also the brake hoods look like they are melting? must be the rubber.