Every time I read one of these threads I'm inspired to try OOP on the daVinci for climbing. If only my stoker could retrain herself to get out of phase. We have a particular problem standing IP since I seem to get my weight to bear faster than my wife; this could really be emphasized if she is even a few degrees behind. What we need to do is identify cues in my stroke that would let her lead by 45 or 90 degrees. Why would we every stand with a 24-32? a) were old; b)captain gets us in the wrong chainring; c) captain mistakenly believes we can "muscle" (a relative term mind you) over a crest. I still swear that when we started out two years ago on the tandem and inadvertently OOP'ed on our first steep climb we found the climbing easier.