Originally Posted by radial1999

While you say that rack mounts can be got around, this isn't necessarily true on all bikes is it? I would feel uncomfortable putting the type that clamp around the seatstays on a carbon bike, or a light steel bike, but I think not doing that to a carbon frame is probably common sense. It's too bad because in my days wrenching at a shop, the carbon bikes felt the best to me, but I really want something I can throw a rack on for longer rides.