Originally Posted by lowlife1975

geez... that's some crazy packing. even foaming up all the tubes is a little over kill in my book. those bikes are packaged much better than any manufacturer would ship a new frame. basically they are just shrink wrapped but in a custom sized box. i think construction of the box to fit precisely, and reinforced around the corners is the most important thing. when i ship frames, i just foam up the head tube, put something rigid between the dropouts,, maybe pad the BB area and seat tube area, throw the fork into a couple of usps boxes, throw some plastic wrapping around the frame and add lots of filler paper. never had any issues, shipping as far away as sweden and new zealand. i always figure if a package is destined to be damaged, most likely it will be so severe that no amount of padding will help. then you are just out of luck and take your lumps. but bravo to those who are really going that extra mile... err 10 miles with packing.