Originally Posted by Helmet Head
Are you with us, or not?
Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff
Whoaya! I'm not signing up to be in a club or anything. I take "we" to be the people taking part in this discussion and no one else. I don't claim to be making arguments on anyone else's behalf or any movement's behalf. I just wanted to find some common ground to keep the argument on track and focused.
Please, keep the signup sheets out!
Brian's use of the pronoun "We" is reasonable in the context he describes. This is in stark contrast to the presumptuous of Helmethead who apparently thinks his unique opinions and stream of consciousness ranting about cycling represent the consensus of a mystical unnamed/undefined population of cyclists (AKA "We/Us") known only to the residents of Planet Serge.
As best as I can tell, the "WE/US" of "Are you with us, or not?" consists of the 2 residents of Planet Serge (Serge and HelmetHead) and maybe a few EC zealots also obsessed with promoting as gospel the "wisdom" found in the John Forester chronicles. See Chainguard or BTI discussion groups if you wish to read similar rants from the members of the "we Club" who are "with us".
Of course none of this ridiculous speculation from Planet Serge makes the slightest difference unless any significant number of decision makers actually take his "stuff" seriously. I take that as even less likely than anyone taking seriously the worrywort fears of draconian enforcement of cycling laws known only to the VC-spouting legal beagles of the "Daily Commuter" breed.