Originally Posted by orguasch

Bikeophile,
well I have been riding with the group, and I can assure that the group is not an elistist group, , and with regards to the Canadian Cyclist website,I only visit the classified section and the international news but the forum never, the people there are very uptight, and the donut ride is really a mixture of wannabee pros, amatuer, oldies (like me) when you join the ride try going or start from the beginning , or have coffe at the Canadian Bagel shop, at Laird and Eglinton,you will meet the oldies having coffee before the ride, and you will only hear words of encouragement from them....I think Ihave seen Cavernmech, in one of the ride.
oscar