R14, thanks for the commentary on carbon bars. Allthough I'm no 'looker' I'll be that much more of an ugly pug if I lose my teeth! Plus... I don't have ti Brompton so the minimal weight saving is fairly pointless, as little as 100g with some alu bars.

I am still looking for a bar I like. I have settled that it needs to be White, High Rise, 25.4 (obviously). I have some shortlisted, just need to put my hand in my pocket.