I'm going to have to read that thread. But since I'm here I'll throw in my assumptions. The problem with studies is that the vast majority of them are conducted on "untrained" subjects. This is done for a number of reasons. Not the least of which is that untrained subjects provide a common baseline. Athletes are all in various stages of trained fitness. If you are not accustomed to exercise. You WILL experience results from virtually any stimulus. It's the same problem as the Arthur Jones HIT stuff. Bottom line. If you train like a wimp... You'll be a wimp.