thanks for all the tips. I was kind of embarrassed to ask at my age. I still don't have a good way to put them on my rack. I need some straps or something. All I have is a net that's too big. Unfortunately my panniers don't have cords on top. I use super Cs. One of these might help: http://www.citybike.co.kr/front/php/...isplay_group=1