My favoriate situation is when some of the young guys come up here. They sit down and see a group of older riders (upwards of 60 in some cases) They assume by the gear that they are roadies. Then they meet them on the mountain or on one of the trails and get SMOKED. These 'old' guys are wicked riders and while they do ride road are awesome mtbikers too (and I mean dh and freeride not normal xc).