Ken Cox,
Keirin frame builders are a bit difficult to deal with. Their first question when you call or walk in is, "what bank you race at and what team you race for?" Unless you have a valid answer you're pretty much denied business. They are busy building for pro-riders and don't want to deal with people who want to buy a frame to put it up on the wall.
In any case I started using rental bikes they have at the bank. I mixed and matched parts to make something that fits.
For the road I am still using my old frame, which doesn't fit perfectly, but is good enough for commuting.
The guys training us are ex-pro-riders and have good connections to most builders.
I am now getting a frame done for less money and also have the wait-time cut.
Also, you don't need to be a forum guru to have a custom frame built.
They just want to see your current build and ask you what type of riding you do, or are planning to do. The geometry, size, tubes etc, he will figure out.
To my knowledge they don't like people going in there thinking they know everything.

I am not letting these sour-grapes talk me out of anything. I've been watching this for some time now. People are just waiting for beginners posting something and then jump on it and show how knowledgeable they are. This happens pretty much on every forum, bicycles, computers photography or whatever the topic may be.
Just sad to see that some of these sour-grapes are actually mods here...