I have an LL Bean gore-tex Anorak style jacket I bought years ago early 90's for back packing (day hikes) and x-country skiing and have used it for two years year round commuting (winter too) here in southern Maine and it is still going strong. I suppose some would say it is baggy but works great for year round when layering. I remember I got it in the outlet store. It was a return. I also have their gore-tex pants I paid full price. These have lasted a long time and got plenty of use.