Here's another vote for showers pass touring jacket. I picked one up at REI with 20% coupon. I don't have much more to add. It's definitely cut looser than other cycling gear. I usually wear XL or XXL gear but bought an XL touring jacket. It still feels a bit loose. It's great in the rain and very durable. I crashed once where I slid down the trail on my left shoulder. It only made the jacket dirty. My only gripe is that I tend to over heat. I usually keep the pit vents almost all the way open. I think I might try the Elite when this one wears out.