Thanks for the reply. I really like the Trek that I looked at today. It was a Marlin 29er Gary Fisher. And at $579, I thought it was a very nice bike for the money. The only problem with it was the only ones that they had were all 19" and that seemed big to me. Everything I have read says I need about 2" of clearance between the bar and me, and while I could straddle it flat footed, it was "close" to say the least. And of coarse the salesman said this was how his bike was and would be ok. He also said is would be July before they had anymore in.