Originally Posted by kevinf2090

hmm... so in this case which would be the better choice, a brand new 2011 F85 or this 2010 F75. if i'm a beginner would i notice the difference in the components used such as 105 crank versus FSA crank, microshift shifters, etc? also i'm not sure if i understand Felt's branding and terminology but is the F85 frame in any way carbon? also, kind of a stupid question but is there a difference between carbon and carbon fiber? ( i don't think so but just want to make sure lol.) i've seen descriptions both ways on bikepedia