awesome. was just looking for some visual reference on Sub 11.0 lugs and ran across this thread.

Mark, I grew up in Wayzata, MN. Moved east in '81.

The reason I was looking is because I have what I believe is a fairly unique Serotta frame that uses Sub 11.0 lugs. I was told Ben built 20 framesets himself at the request of International Bicycle in Allston (Boston), MA in the (late?) 90s. Double butted Reynolds 501, I believe they did 5 frames each in 4 sizes meant for Boston alley cats. Mine is a 56cm bought in 2000 and may have been one of the last to go. I feel very fortunate. A lovingly built steel Serotta frameset for under a grand.

Anyway. Sub 11.0 horizontal fork ends. Sheldon's words. There's nothing dropping out after all...