If it has down tube shifters does that qualify? If it has a 6spd freewheel does that qualify? What if I don't care what year it is and I just post the pictures of all the painstaking work I have lovingly put into this fake classic wannabe? I think this has been overblown, I'm here to see the work people have done with something someone didn't want. Junk yard trash or Eflay flash, no one here that I have seen is showing off the latest shwag. Some here have carbon bikes but there not showing them here, no one would care if they posted thier latest bike service. ( Hay look I had to wash off my bike.) Some new guys or young people have posted thier yard sale specials and I have to say those are some of the better posts. New people learning how to remove rust, save paint, take apart the stem from the fork, I don't care if it's a 2000 motobecane. Somehow the bike got into the condition that it needs to be saved, and it's not the bikes falt, 68', or 98'. I started working on bikes with my dad when I was 7 or 8, when I was 10 we laced a 5spd freewheel to a 20" wheel and bolted on a derailleur to hotrod my BMX bike. I've been hotrodding bikes eversince. We should have a combination of tech, materials, age, and the custom work put into the bike not a date of XX or YY. I don't think anyone here would complain about a new Sachs being posted, so we should try to be a little excepting of stuff that may not qualify under one category out of two or three.