Some one asked how long it takes to build a frame. The answer is in watching a lot of you-tube frame clips. Some one with the proper tools and jigs who knows what there doing can build a welded frame in a day ( less fitting ). Luged frames take longer ( more fitting ). Custom lugs could take the rest of your life depending on the detail. Watch "Geekhouse" on you-tube, yes I know it's edited but the building process is step by step and all the machinery is in the same room.