Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 9,167
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From: Boston
Bikes: 2022 Soma Fog Cutter, 2021 Calfee Draqonfly 44, 1984 Peter Mooney, 2017 Soma Stanyan, 1990 Fuji Ace, 1990 Bridgestone RB-1, 1995 Independent Fabrications Track, 2003 Calfee Dragonfly Pro
C&V is different for everyone. For me, I think it ended with the switch to STI/Ergo levers and welded frames (instead of lugged). But I also like classic frames with modern parts.
Some think it ended with clipless pedals. I like both.
Some think it ended with lycra shorts instead of wool, synthetic chamois instead of leather.
This is a pretty laid back forum. If you have a steel bike with lugs -even brand new- we will probably give it a thumbs up. If you have a 20 year old aluminum or carbon bike, we'll probably be nice too!