Well you seemed a little adamant let's say, but I just wanted to make sure you got credit for the excellent points if anyone cared to check that thread. I think I personally couldn't commute much more than an hour each way but if someone enjoyed it that much, I can see how they'd consider it a positive. Someone said they commute and also train for example, to the tune of 15,000 miles per year. That's more than double what I do and some people think I'm crazy ... it's all relative. Basically I can't see charging that time to the cost of commuting if I'd be riding that much anyway. Equipment, I think you have to look at it the same way.