Between those two, the civia rack offers more side support toward the rear part of the rack. Believe me, that's a huge plus. If you are looking into the Tortec brand, you owe it to yourself to consider their Expedition model. When it comes to rear racks, simple or minimalist designs will look pretty on the bike but very often will translate into a horrible experience commuting and even worse when touring: heel strike, larger panniers hitting the rear wheel spokes, breaking under heavier loads, etc. Based on your goals, I suggest buying one rack that you can grow into rather than spending more $$ later when you realize that your current rear rack was only good for light commuting but not good for anything else.