My plastic SKS fenders seem to be as short as in the pictures. But I had no problems with the spray in front of the fender during Missouri winters. Now I have a Jandd front rack which has a large flat plate on the top. So I guess I won't ever have that problem now. I like the ideas you guys have implemented with an extra spray flap. I may have to put one at the back of the front fender though. Sometimes a deep water puddle lets a bit of spray come back as far as the pedals.