Originally Posted by
guadzilla
And to make it clear - I don't think they should take away his TdF titles or anything. I don't care about the punitive aspects. I'd just like the truth to emerge.
If Lance is innocent, I'd like to know.
If he is guilty and has built himself into a hero by using his cancer as a cloak, and at the same time ruthlessly ruined the reputation of others, I'd like to know.
Trying to hide the truth b/c of Livestrong, etc is BS. We are adults and don't need coddling from the truth. To me, all those reasons are justifications of people who are really motivated by one thing only: blind love for Lance, which MAY have been built on a foundation of lies. If you guys are afraid to deal with it, that's your problem.
For the sake of discussion....how about...winning at cycling is predicated on the lie that is can be done cleanly. Lets say everybody knows that....including public and riders. So the riders cheat and try to hide it in an effort to win and be famous. That is the contest or the game. Maybe the competition that Lance won is he was the most successful cheater in the history of the sport where the other guys weren't as good at cheating. The guys that lost at cheating are now saying that the guy who everybody thinks doesn't cheat, does. What do they have to lose now their lives have been ruined as mentioned previously?
Another view of this debacle at the end of the day...maybe the public good of livestrong is more important than if cyclists cheat. So bringing down Lance which may bring down the good that livestrong does may not be worth the tradeoff. As to Lance's rational. We all know he is ruthless. You can't go into the backyard of Europe and dominate their coveted cycling event without being that way. The guy is the ultimate competitor and surviver. He has another fight on his hands and if anybody has a chance of winning, its him. Of course he uses his shield of livestrong to protect his image. Another famous superstar that has fallen precipitously from grace comes to mind reading this thread.
Tiger Woods. The ruthless guys as the top...suppose there are exceptions but they are truly the exceptions are flawed in their single focus to dominate. If there is a sham it is Tiger Woods....the exact opposite of his carefully crafted apple pie image. Since he has transformed himself from a skinny kid that could play good golf to a half back and now doesn't play as well with his broken down body, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't dope either...same doctor that has been caught doping other atheletes.