ok, spoken to my father in law, he cannot remember the year or model, but he is going to find the old bike builder in the metropolis of Tarbes (in the Pyrennes) to see if he can remember. However at a guess if it was a mate of Maurice he is probably in his mid to late 80's and just have to hope he doesn't have alzheimers;-) In the mean time the quest continues.....allez;-) bottle of French red to the person that solves the quest (red of course ;-) and from the SW!