Thanks for the replies.

Jon- yeah, I don't know how either of them feel yet, the weather hasn't been great so I haven't been able to go for a test ride.

chicibike- thanks I'll definitely check those sites out

gianttcfr1 - thanks! yeah I called in today, and they said that they usually have an annual spring sale where they get rid of old models. Turns out I missed it by 3 weeks . Also when you say you've had trouble with the Avid BB5 calipers- you mean the disc brakes, right? I know nothing about them, but for my uses would you say that the traditional pull brakes are the way to go? (I'm gonna go search the forums abt this haha)

I appreciate all the help!

Rob