Originally Posted by unterhausen

nashbar has their frames on sale quite frequently for $99. That means to me that they are getting them for no more than $50. Those frames seem to be reasonably capable. For my purposes, that's as low as I would be willing to go. Building up a frame into a bike is never cheap. I have almost $200 into my commuter, and I got almost everything free. It's the "almost" that will get you every time. But it seems to me that having faith in the frame is a relatively important aspect of enjoying a bike.