Thanks, I wish I had never started looking at comparables! Made my decision so much harder now. As much as I would like to save some bucks I don't think I can get over the Scatante name/color scheme on my bike or the Gravity/Color. I think I would love the Trek or Giant so much more. They both have pretty cool color schemes. After reading so many threads here now I think I am going to have to go with something I feel I will want to ride more/like more. Yeesh decisions decisions decisions. Thanks for the input. Regards Gene