Ok so find the right tool - annoint the demonic area with PB blaster - lay hands on it and when all else fails build clocks - take a trip down to the LBS or vist Sheldon Brown's website. I think after last night I'm more into breaking plastic chairs, but I give this other stuff a try first. Is there a craigslist site for C&V clocks? But I'm happy to report new bb and crankset on the way.