Originally Posted by john forester
......you are expressing a common misconception. You have been confused by the specific permissions of the cyclist FRAP law to fail to see its basic principle of guilty unless proved innocent.
woah, woah! stop the horses, there, John.
I've clearly explained, and illustrated with your California traffic codes, that it is the SMV-FRAP law that embodies the principal of prima facie guilt for failing to operate FRAP. Not the BIKES-FRAP law, which contains no such provisions.
Your statements about the law deliberately or haplessly misleads about both California traffic code as well as the duties of slowly driven vehicles under SMV-FRAP laws, which are fairly uniform across the states and provide far less explicit protections for cyclists.