way after, but I have gotten a million 150 and 200 at the used gear sale for $10 each. all they needed was some JB Weld love. I will say this. if you ever drop the light it will break. they for some stupid reason use very brittle plastic. A huge design flaw if you ask me, fr a light that price. Anyway, I would only buy one full price from a place that will warrantee the drop factor...