I've been following the thread above and figured i'd jump in with my $0.02. I've been commuting with a 2005 Trek Multi-Trak 7200 Hybrid for about 18 months or so. After going through the stock saddle (ugh!!) followed by a Terry saddle I was doing some reading on the Brooks on-line catalog for the B68. This sounded ideal because it was wider to account for the more upright position but didn't have the springs, because I have a telescoping seat post. What I found was discomfort in my hip joint. But what I finally realized is that my seating position is not really all that upright, even on my hybrid. I sold the B68 on Ebay and replaced it with a standard B17 and the pain is gone. FWIW.