Originally Posted by
ItsJustMe
....... they want us to obey the traffic signals except when we're in their way, in which case they want us to run the red lights and get out of the way.
Catch 22 there, run the red light, motorists get pissed, sit in front of them at red light, motorists get pissed. Facing that scenario, a cyclist should make the call based on what they perceive as safe, and not on motorists' emotions