Originally Posted by jschristian44

yeah that guy with teh sound card took my money back that he paid with and kept the sound card. the card worked fine, and it wasn't a paperclip, it was solder. i didn't do the soldering job but it wasn't a magnet either, that was the power supply soldered to the sound card. it took like 2 weeks to break the card into my computer before it would work all the time. i told him to just be patient that it would work, but he filed a claim and got his money back and kept the card. so now he has his money back and a free sound card that's worth like 100 dollars. amazon has good products and customer service, but selling on there is a nightmare, don't ever do it.