Hillborne Reviews:
http://www.ecovelo.info/2010/06/27/l...sam-hillborne/
and search here: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!fo...w-owners-bunch

I agree that the Riv is a bike I'd "worry" about as a commuter, a Surly not-so-much. That's why I have a Sam as my "weekend" bike and a LHT as my commute/utility bike...