Originally Posted by nomo4me
Consider a used bike. You will experience component failures early with this bike, and many will say that it's not worthy of Tiagra level upgrades.
BTW, that's a damned fine Air Force Museum down there in Tucson. Isn't there another one in the Phoenix area? I'm a plane junkie

Okay.. i just thought it would be alright as a 1st bike, since it DID have Shimano parts (as miniscule as they are) and I figure around October im going to fork out about $700 for a nice bike (or build my own if I can figure out what parts are better than what..)
and yes, the museum in tucson is awesome, not sure about up here in phoenix, i havent been around here much, only been here about a month. I know there is a base up here in Surprise.. *shrug*