Originally Posted by
Ziemas
User error all the way.
Both my wife and I use Ortleib Backrollers and Arkel Bugs with a very similar rack to yours (we use Tubus Logos) on bike with short (42.5mm) chainstays. If your panniers are mounted properly then they will not move.
Go find someone to teach you how to properly set up your panniers. There is no logical reason aside from user error why neither of these panniers will work for you.
Did you actually adjust the hooks on the Bug to position in all the way back on the rack to avoid heel strike? Also, the three outer pockets are great for organizing small things. Earlier models had an inside pocket, and it was very hard to access with a full pannier, making it useless.
As for the cams failing, Arkel has a lifetime guarantee, and the best customer service of any business I've ever dealt with. After several years of daily use and abuse mine are still going strong. You simply need to squirt them with WD-40 once every six months or so.
Can I politely say that you obviously haven't read and absorbed and understood all the facts in my last post, otherwise you wouldn't be telling me that I don't know how to set up panniers; either that or you're just a rude idiot. I don't think I'm being over-sensitive here.
As I said, the cam-locks didn't inspire much longer-term confidence and as a city commuter in stop-start traffic, the only thing I'd be willing to put in the mesh side-pockets would be a water bottle or some trash - think about it.
Obviously I've done everything I can to try to make the Bug work for me but I'm not happy with it and whilst I'm sure the Bug is a good product, it isn't for me, end of story.
I should mention that I've been posting about my process of getting a rack and luggage for my bike to seek advice and info from the helpful members of this forum, and to give back and provide information about my findings for the possible benefit of others choosing a luggage solution, which is generally the purpose of user forums, rather than a place for posting insults.