[QUOTE=fietsbob;12882683]Seattle Bike Supply, Redline is a good company, QBP, likewise.., Salsa, Surly, Civia, etc.
both come thru the west coast Ports, of entry, Tacoma Oakland Or Long Beach..


I was just looking at the Civia Bryant frameset. I have no problem building something, in fact being as how picky I am I think that will be best. This bike will be ridden almost every single day atleast 20 miles per day so I want it to be as light as a commuter bike can be. I'm reasonable I realize its not gonna be my road bike weight. I wish like hell I could afford a Ti frame but that is a bit out of my budget if I want to get nice components too. Anywho, back to the Civia, anyone have a clue what the Bryant frame set weighs? I found a Soma frameset that was steel in a 54cm that weighed 4.1 lbs but I really don't care for the color at all; very blah. I LOVE some of the Salsa's but I can't get a good deal on them like I can some of the others. I'm open to any suggestions, I'm still at the drawing board.

Interesting thought on retrofitting a disc on a bike. Is that as secure as a normal disc mount? That would simplify things for sure but I have some nasty hills here so it needs to be robust.