Honda Odyssey - can put four bikes in back and still carry the four riders (me, wife, kids). But I have no issues putting stuff on top either. Last summer we loaded up with four kayaks and two bikes on top, two bikes inside, and two weeks worth of camping gear, clothing, and food and went on a long road trip up the coast of Maine to Acadia, then back through NH and VT. The gear on top used up every inch of those 78" crossbars!

I'm getting too darn old to be lifting all that up on a minivan though, so we're thinking of getting a sport trailer like the Yakima Rack N Roll.

If you're absent minded, do not carry bikes on top!