lol huey - i can't tell if you're being willfully ignorant, or just silly.

ira and avmech - both ideas are sound, but "this should work in theory/it's worked once" is generally how i end up breaking things by accident . Apparently I am the king of leverage/bad luck.

hill, thank you for mentioning the tool delivered with the 105 cranks. i might have to make a stop at my roadie lbs to see if they've got any kicking around. i'll take pictures of the frame later (sans crank and bb) if anyone wants to guess the type of schwinn.