thanks boro,

it amazes me that bike companies short change people in the saddle. i know a seat is a personal preference thing but as a company i would like to have my costumers happy and comfortable on day one, even if it hurts our after market saddle sales. i want that customer to come back to us and refer others to my bikes. but hey what do i know i dont own a bike company.

I too think of my bike as a 5 speed with emergency options. but i guess where i am at i have more stops than you. and if i am riding the MUP i use more gears and shift constantly it feels. if i am on the street i have to shift up and down due to stop lights every .5 of a mile.