Thanks for all the response I will try to see if I can extend my loaner saddle for one more week,they only let you try it a week at a time and I only have the week end to ride, I wish I can ride everyday like most of you guys but with 3 little kids it's kinda hard to do it everyday ,thanks again..about sticking with the stock saddle well if I want to ride more than 20miles the stock saddle is not going to work becs I only rode 20miles and my behind was sore after only 18 the remaining 2 miles was literally a painful experience .