Originally Posted by
tacomee
I'm also a big Nashbar fan.... but I'd stick to a Surly frame. it's 2X the money, but 3X as good.
How do you figure that? Surly frames are cheap-ass 4130 steel.
Retail pricing on double-butted 4130 bike tubing is less than $100, which probably means that Surly's paying $40 or less for the raw materials. I don't see that the LHT offers anything the Nashbar touring frame doesn't... other than a much larger price tag!