That just simply not what I'm talking about. All that stuff out there is done in the same motif, this sleek metrosexual look. None of it has any character or makes any statements. I'm not saying that you need those things, but I were to pay $100 for a pair of shorts I want that thing to look good and not just like every other cyclist who's willing to spend thousands of getting off to ride.

I'll just have to show what I'm talking about tomorow with a picture.

And yes, the shorts are wonderful, I wear them under my baggy shorts. I've never had a problem with flapping, or bunching up even with riding all day. Racers definately do not have any more use for supreme functionality than a tourist who rides 10 hours a day.

I'll wait till I have the pictures I need before expanding more on the subject.