Ok, so a little update on the saddles. I tried one on a customer's bike (shh!) at the LBS which I work at, and uggh, those seats are uncomfortable. Wicked light though. Too wide at the rear, the nose is too slim so there isn't any support for, well, you know..but this is just with my ass though, evidently the guy who owns the bike really loves it..I guess the saddle would be really cool on hot days though...