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Old 08-04-11 | 11:34 AM
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asgelle
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Originally Posted by mkadam68
Oh, it definitely gets annoying. You're right: it doesn't always need to be said, especially as you go up the ladder of rider experience. On the group training rides I do (with occasional world & olympic champions, and professionals--very experienced riders), I only ever let them know a car is back if it's a very narrow road and the car is passing very close by.

This would be where situational awareness comes in. What it comes down to: is the car's presence a credible threat to the safety of any riders in the group? Yes? Then the others need to know about it. Some considerations I run through before announcing, "Car back!":
  • Is the group a bunch of new riders who might be startled by the presence of a motor vehicle?
  • Is the group all over the place, swelling up and covering the whole road and then narrowing back down? Or consistently riding double file?
  • Is the roadway narrow where the car passes the group so closely that it would run over someone if they were to swerve just a foot or two to their left?
  • Is there one rider who currently is sitting out in the middle of the road away from the group?
  • Is it an isolated road where traffic is minimal? A car suddenly appearing might not be expected.
  • Is it a training ride where sudden movements out into traffic can be expected by someone?

Also, if it's a big group, I might say "Car back" much more loudly than if it's just 3-6 of my friends, where I say it at conversational volume.
That's what needs to taught to new riders. They should be taught to develop into the type of riders who hardly ever announce or need to be told "car back". Lately though, I've ridden with a significant number of people who do believe it's their duty to announce every appearance of a car no matter how far back and also to pass the word up the line even when it should be obvious that everyone's already heard.
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