And that thing is bad ass! I put test ride in quotes because it was on flat pedals and on the only one they had which was a bit too big, but the manager likes me, and wanted me to try it... so I had to That thing was STIFF. The new thicker top tube was odd looking, but totally did its job. I'm not a fan of the internal cable routing because I don't like internal routing, but the shop said its a really easy to use setup, so who knows. Anywho, if you like the Big S, you should try one. Sucks that I just got an SL3 though... oh well!