Originally Posted by randyjawa

I find, work on and compare hundreds of old and newer bicycles, each year. And, yes, the quality of the older machines is stunning compared to the junk Walmart, and the like, are puking out these days. The problem is, millions of people line up, year after year, gobbling up the puke. Good grief!

So, if you want a good deal, buy a used anything and let the crap creators keep their dung. That's the way I see it and I rarely buy anything new anymore. Just too much good used stuff out there begging for the chance to be again.