longer rides I have a pair of Hincapie bibs I got for about 1/4 price at HHH last year. very plush, supposed to be on
a par with the Assos F1s.
My favorite bibs are Exte-Ondo with a minimally padded chamois (Golden Chamois) which feels like the real thing, although
it's not. The chamois isn't shaped, padded, sculpted or whatever, just a nice flat piece cut to fit the shorts.
I don't think Exte makes these anymore and have gone into the shaped, sculpted multilayered chamois.
Someday when I win the Lottery I'll check out the Assos f13 or whatever they're called, just to see what
$350 bibs feel like.
Haven't tried the Ibex merino wool bibs but I'd like to.
I still have a pair of Cool Gear wool shorts with real chamois liner but I don't think
they fit me anymore.

Marty